Ishmael has crammed in enough adventures with God to fill a dozen large volumes while his musical achievements from fronting possibly the first ever Christian punk band, to birthing kids' praise parties and Spirit-led ministry for children, to writing worship classics like 'Father God I Wonder' means that nothing short of legendary seems appropriate in describing the grizzled veteran. The old friends chat about coming to faith, his long music career, launching The Glorie Company at Spring Harvest, Ishy's cancer diagnosis in 2008 plus moving onto to Chichester Cathedral.